Monk In The World

To be a monk is to have time to practice for your transformation and healing. And after that to help with the transformation and healing of other people.

Thich Nhat Hanh

Sunday, August 22, 2010


All the discussion about the "priest" thing at Wildfoxzen got me to thinking about how in the Christian tradition things have been done and undone, layered and layered, crossed out, included, built up, torn down, moved, stayed the same and on and on and on and on...further and further away from the essence of what Jesus was getting at in simply the way he live his life..."the way, the truth, the I thought it might be a good time to just look at the following:

Four Noble Truths
   1. Suffering exists
   2. Suffering arises from attachment to desires
   3. Suffering ceases when attachment to desire ceases
   4. Freedom from suffering is possible by practicing the Eightfold Path

Noble Eightfold Path
 Three Qualities Eightfold Path
 Wisdom (panna) Right View
  Right Thought
 Morality (sila) Right Speech
  Right Action
  Right Livelihood
 Meditation (samadhi) Right Effort
  Right Mindfulness
  Right Contemplation

Thanks to for the above.

And I am thankful for the teachers and priests we have in all traditions!

Deep Bows,



Scruff said...

A few questions:

1) Who established these "truths"?

2) If the way in which wisdom is so often "obtained" is through suffering (I'm sure you would agree), then why would one want to seek freedom from suffering?

3) Do you really believe that one can obtain freedom from suffering in this life?

4) Are desires "bad"? If I were to lose my attachment to desire, let's say that suffering would cease - but along with it, would not love and joy and happiness as well, as those emotions are all connected to desire?

5) In the story of Jesus, did he not choose the path that led to suffering? Was this not the culmination of his life work (if you leave resurrection on the table for debate)? Or do you just believe he was unlucky?

6) If the two most important things in this life are love and relationships, wouldn't you agree that to truly experience those two spheres of life authentically and fully, one must experience suffering?

7) Do you want freedom from suffering?

Dosho Port said...


I think we're on the same page, although I drifted on in words! Dropping the inflated titles and just simply describing our practice and life seems to me in this spirit.

Do you agree?


Monk in the world said...

What else is there? Yes, I agree.


Annotated Margins said...

The four noble truths, one path that leads to so much... so much. And yet there is nowhere to go.